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NiGHTs Into Dreams Mysteries and Oddities by TimeLierG - TimeLierG - 04-12-2025
I won't go over things that have been talked about a lot such as Selph since everyone already heard enough about them, I will list some more obscure mysteries I heard about from others here.
Video version of my blog post:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUghNLkbMiE
https://old.bitchute.com/video/ubjvmmF8FCWT/
~ Snowman in Frozen Bell ~
What even is this supposed to be, I've only seen one or two people mention this but there's a strange snowman that looks like it's designed after something or someone we don't see in the game. It has what looks like a beak, at least to me, a ponytail and buttons. It kind of looks like it has glasses but I think that's just me seeing things.
~ Early Clawz Design ~
This is my least favorite boss in the game to put it nicely, both gameplay wise and aesthetically speaking. There's a few early designs of the character which look really neat and fit the games style a lot more.
~ Puffy's Closet Umbrella and Jackle's Guillotine ~
I just learned recently that the trigger for the umbrella to fall out of Puffy's closet after defeating her is by having a "2" in the timer, I found this out from someone who goes by "JiggyLookBack" in his NiGHTs video. I commented on said video regarding this oddity as well as mentioning Jackle's guillotine dropping, I was wondering what the trigger for this was when someone responded to me and said it actually doesn't even exist, people datamining the game stated there is no animation for his guillotine going off. I haven't seen this myself and only heard of this from one of Digi Valentine's videos where he mentions it happening, it seems like there's a mystery here.
I wonder where he original heard it from or if it was a memory of his? It's really interesting but don't pester the guy about it. There is actually one other mention of this online, a post saying that the guillotine sometime's drops after Jackle is defeated, the poster said he found this on a NiGHTs wiki. I haven't found any wiki that mentions this, I assume it was removed. The poster also mentions the chances of the guillotine dropping are "very rare". I'm assuming both of these individuals saw this from the wiki and that said wiki was the source of this rumor. If this is the case I wonder who originally came up with this and why, NiGHTs is already really obscure even if it is becoming more well known, I highly doubt someone made this up as a troll, it's so oddly specific.
How did this individual see Jackle's guillotine drop or imagine it did? This is the kind of stuff that will keep you up at night, truly.
~ Scrapped Halloween Level ~
There's an unused Halloween themed level that was found in the PS2 version of the game, it seems like the boss of the level would have been in Puffy's room. There's music that would have went along with this level, I'm sure everyone's heard it before.
~ Air NiGHTs ~
I don't have a lot to say about this because there's almost nothing known about it, Air NiGHTs was going to be a sequel to NiGHTs into Dreams on the Saturn before being moved to the Dreamcast and then being scrapped, how fitting would that have been? It was going to have motion controls like Journey of Dreams on the Wii. I wonder if concepts from both NiD and this project made it into JoD.
I really want to see what this game would have looked like, the Dreamcast has some of the most cozy games on it, I bet the game would have had an amazing aesthetic.
~ Spiral Claris Level ~
The internal name for Twin Seeds is "#P7:ELIOT'S-CITY" which implies Claris would have had her own version of a final level instead of being a copy paste, to go along with this there's a name in the files for something labeled "#P8:SPIRAL-CLARIS".
~ Blue Door ~
In prerelease footage of the game from E3 there is a mysterious blue door that can be seen in Frozen Bell a few times, the video suspiciously cuts as soon as Elliot is about to jump into it.